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Steve J a écrit :Et du coup je me pose la question : est-ce qu'il y a une raison mécanique qui force les meneurs de jeu à préférer une logique de succession de combats à un faible nombre d'affrontements contre des adversaires plus dangereux ? Quelle est la raison derrière cette multiplication des affrontements (qu'on voit finalement peu ailleurs) dans les modules Pathfinder ?

Guigui le Yoyome a écrit : Je rejoins donc mes camarades pour dire que c'est une vache sacrée héritée d'un autre âge du JdR et qui pose plus de problèmes qu'elle n'en résout.

Guigui le Yoyome a écrit :Ceci dit, il est très facile de remédier à ce problème : ne plus compter les XP et faire passer les PJ de niveau quand tu décides que c'est le moment. Ça te permet de supprimer les combats non-significatifs qui rallongent quelque peu inutilement le jeu (si toi et tes PJ n'êtes pas fans du mob-bashing), quitte à regrouper certains combats, si la puissance du groupe le permet, afin de les rendre plus dangereux, plus épiques ou plus intéressants.

Je rejoins donc mes camarades pour dire que c'est une vache sacrée héritée d'un autre âge du JdR et qui pose plus de problèmes qu'elle n'en résout.

Benefits of E6 :
1. Very fast play at every level of the campaign.
2. Focus on planning, not levelling. To defeat the black dragon Zolanderos, the CR 10 terror of Staunwark Island, the heroes will need help, special resources, and information. I want to further encourage party-directed adventuring, and if the heroes want to take on something 4 to 6 CR above them, then that's what they will require.
3. A low magic game that everyone knows how to play.
4. Never a need for meaningless encounters. The players can be involved in a dozen or so major combat scenarios (perhaps more than one encounter each) and have proven themselves and made a major accomplishment. See Lord of the Rings movies, or most fantasy novels.
5. Classic monsters stay classic throughout the campaign; Chimeras and Aboleths start scary, and stay scary. Dragons are always exciting encounters.
6. Even legendary heroes remain mortal; while a 6th level fighter who has taken toughness several times can take on a good mob, he isn't invulnerable. The sorcerer's 6d6 fireballs are phenomenal, but not so powerful that he can destroy a village and not fear retaliation.
7. Quicker prep. Make a 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 6th version of a sorcerer, and now you have a whole sorcerous dragon-cult that can last you through your whole campaign.
8. You can put what you've learned of the rules to good use. It's hard to know every 4th through 9th level spell out there; they're the ones we see the least. But we've seen 0th through 3rd level spells many, many times, and mastery over them is relatively simple.
9. E6 is a great system for on the fly GMing. If you’re reasonably familiar with what a 2nd level threat looks like, power-wise, you can probably get away with running it without stats handy.

Poulpy a écrit :... ou pas, comme le dit Dref ou Whimpy, en dehors de ce forum très hype, beaucoup (vraiment beaucoup) de joueurs de donj/pathfinder aime la baston à outrance et le crunch qui croustille sous la dent.

Poulpy a écrit :en dehors de ce forum très hype, beaucoup (vraiment beaucoup) de joueurs de donj/pathfinder aime la baston à outrance et le crunch qui croustille sous la dent.

Other than that, I think most of the changes that we made were about trying to streamline the game. I think that Pathfinder, like Dungeons & Dragons before it, has the same problem that a lot of RPGs do, which is that you kind of need somebody to walk you through it the first time. The core rulebook is super intimidating; it’s 576 pages. If you’re a new player that doesn’t know how this works, that’s incredibly daunting. So with Pathfinder we tried, with the Beginner Box, to make an easier intro for new players. And I think we were pretty successful, judging by the feedback. So we’ve been trying with Starfinder to take the lessons that we learned from stuff like the Beginner Box or the strategy guide for Pathfinder, and try and apply it to Starfinder, to make it just a little more friendly, and walk people through stuff.

Islayre d'Argolh a écrit :Lu là a propos de Starfinder.

J'en retiens surtout :

Other than that, I think most of the changes that we made were about trying to streamline the game. I think that Pathfinder, like Dungeons & Dragons before it, has the same problem that a lot of RPGs do, which is that you kind of need somebody to walk you through it the first time. The core rulebook is super intimidating; it’s 576 pages. If you’re a new player that doesn’t know how this works, that’s incredibly daunting. So with Pathfinder we tried, with the Beginner Box, to make an easier intro for new players. And I think we were pretty successful, judging by the feedback. So we’ve been trying with Starfinder to take the lessons that we learned from stuff like the Beginner Box or the strategy guide for Pathfinder, and try and apply it to Starfinder, to make it just a little more friendly, and walk people through stuff.

Amen !